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Old April 19th, 2007, 03:09 PM
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my buddy is born and raised in the u.s., now married with kids, and our families are thinking about taking a cruise to mexico. he has a felony conviction from an incident 15 years ago and nothing else since. he is worried about re-entering the u.s. but if he is a legal citizen with a passport and no restrictions on travel that i know of, ther is no problem, right? i mean, he is not trying to enter canada but re-enter his own u.s. any help would be greatly appreciated, thanks. amy
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Old April 19th, 2007, 04:53 PM
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he has a felony conviction from an incident 15 years ago and nothing else since. he is worried about re-entering the u.s. but if he is a legal citizen with a passport and no restrictions on travel that i know of, ther is no problem, right?
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The convicted felon would be restricted in travel pursuant to the terms of his probation or parole.

Once off probation or parole, there may be issues entering certain other nations, if the person's record is known to the foreign authorities.

Contact Probation Department.
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Is he on probation or parole? If he is, he would need to contact his parole officer to see if travel is restricted. If he's fulfilled those obligations, there should be no problem at all.
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Old April 20th, 2007, 12:50 PM
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I'm Canadian and it is the same all over. It would not be up to the cruise line. It is up to the country you are entering. As stated American with records are being refused entry in to Canada.
This mainly has to do with increased pressure from the USA government trying to get other countries to tighten up broader crossing security.
If you have a record you could be detained or not allowed off ship. It is up to boarder/immigration authorities to decide. That said the majority of people do not have a problem. You just don't want to be one of the 5% that do!
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A friend I cruised with is on probation for a felony charge a few years ago. We went to the carribbean (and also france at a different time) and it was no problem. He just had to get a travel permit from the judge/probation officer, but it was not once looked at or questioned.
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A friend I cruised with is on probation for a felony charge a few years ago. We went to the carribbean (and also france at a different time) and it was no problem. He just had to get a travel permit from the judge/probation officer, but it was not once looked at or questioned.
It is up to the country you are entering if you will be allowed to enter. Customs officers have access to criminal records. If you have a record you may not be allowed to enter.
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I traveled to Aruba w/a convicted felon on probation and he had to have court documents from the judge saying he had permission to enter the country. Besides that, I would have your friend ask the proper authorities before leaving to make sure there isn't a problem!
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The passport office told my nephew that they will not process a passport application if back taxes or child support is more than 2500.00 in arrears. It has to be paid in full and up to date and get a document showing that it's paid.
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I traveled to Aruba w/a convicted felon on probation and he had to have court documents from the judge saying he had permission to enter the country. Besides that, I would have your friend ask the proper authorities before leaving to make sure there isn't a problem!
His probation officer say he can leave the country! It has nothing to do with if another country will accept him!
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[quote=nosmothj;9893684]His probation officer say he can leave the country! It has nothing to do with if another country will accept him![/QUOTE]

Except for Canada. As many threads have stated, Canada has closed its borders to people with the smallest of infractions even if committed 25 years ago.

I do not believe Mexico will be a problem.
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His probation officer say he can leave the country! It has nothing to do with if another country will accept him!
Geez, chill out, was just telling OP of my personal experience, why is this a typical attitude? I wasn't condoning or encouraging anything.
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The passport office told my nephew that they will not process a passport application if back taxes or child support is more than 2500.00 in arrears. It has to be paid in full and up to date and get a document showing that it's paid.

Although the person owing back support may not think so, this is a very good thing for the child. We may read about quite a few of these cases in the future.

My nieces boyfriend was in arrears with his child support and they took his drivers license away. Kind of befuddling making it more difficult for him to find employment. But, it has made him take the issue seriously and he's paying up every month now. Another good thing.
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I maybe confuzzeled here but do they allow anyone with a criminal record to obtain a passport I thought you had to have a pardon or something or other.. I must be mistaken.. but I personally don't think anyone who has a record minor or not should be granted a passport.. unless they have been pardoned.
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I maybe confuzzeled here but do they allow anyone with a criminal record to obtain a passport I thought you had to have a pardon or something or other.. I must be mistaken.. but I personally don't think anyone who has a record minor or not should be granted a passport.. unless they have been pardoned.
Yes, you can get a U.S. passport even if you have a criminal record. Once you are no longer under control of the criminal justice system, you can come and go just like any other citizen. Some countries may not let you visit them, but that is their prerogative.

Also, I know someone with an old federal felony conviction who complains that she gets sent to secondary inspection every time she returns to the U.S. I'm not sure if that's really true or if she's exaggerating a bit though.
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The right to a passport, just like the right to vote, and other rights, are sometimes taken away when you are convicted of a felony. Once a person completes his sentence/parole, etc, those Civil Rights are generally restored, so he can vote, get a passport, etc.
That does not mean he can necessarily enter another country (that is up to each country to decide), but he can re-enter this country with no problem.
Although most people dont bother, since visas are granted at entry ports or not required for many tourist spots, you CAN obtain a visa for Mexico from the nearest Mexican Consulate, (or any other country you may want to visit).
OP's friend should apply there, then he will know if his record is going to prevent entry. My guess is no problem, but I dont know anything about his specific conviction.
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His probation officer say he can leave the country! It has nothing to do with if another country will accept him![/QUOTE]

Except for Canada. As many threads have stated, Canada has closed its borders to people with the smallest of infractions even if committed 25 years ago.

I do not believe Mexico will be a problem.
It has to do with Canada from pressure being applied from the USA. The USA government is tighten the broader and wants the same restriction put in place with other countries, shared boarders Canada & Mexico.

But again you are correct they may not have a problem entering Mexico, as the majority that enter Canada do not have a problem. However do you want to guarantee, ensure this person they will not have a problem.

Also reading the New York Times in January the main reason this is coming about is the passport issue. They all have bar codes now that enable Customs to swipe the passport and get info on peoples records.
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Although the person owing back support may not think so, this is a very good thing for the child. We may read about quite a few of these cases in the future.
How does witholding a passport encourage paying child support? And how does taking a driver's license away encourage paying child support?

DH has to go through all kinds of BS to get his passport renewed. We are caught in a Catch 22 between three states on a child support case dating from 1980. The boys are 37 and 34 and one state is still contending that there is child support owed from 1984-85. The other two states agree that child support was paid in full in 1995. Different laws, different rules in different states-27 years ago there were no "standardized procedures".

We have spent over $23,000 in legal fees the last 7 years (over 3 times what the State of Iowa says DH owes) and are still no closer to getting this resolved.
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thank u to all who replied. i checked with my buddy (u.s.citizen) over the weekend and here is his response. his worry is about returning to the u.s. and what u.s. customs will say once they see his passport and follow up in their system. he was born legally in the u.s. and is returning to the u.s. so not worried about another country. from what we understand, the cruise to mexico does not have to go through mexican customs even though we are getting off the boat in different mexican ports.

his probation (no parole since i guess he did no jail time) ended years ago with no travel restrictions. he understands that visiting canada might be an issue but are there issues on returning to his own u.s.??? he did say that when he returned from the caribbean a few years back he was pulled aside for secondary customs interrogation so maybe that's just the way it'll be from now on???

any help would be greatly appreciated, thanks so much. amy
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thank u to all who replied. i checked with my buddy (u.s.citizen) over the weekend and here is his response. his worry is about returning to the u.s. and what u.s. customs will say once they see his passport and follow up in their system. he was born legally in the u.s. and is returning to the u.s. so not worried about another country. from what we understand, the cruise to mexico does not have to go through mexican customs even though we are getting off the boat in different mexican ports.

his probation (no parole since i guess he did no jail time) ended years ago with no travel restrictions. he understands that visiting canada might be an issue but are there issues on returning to his own u.s.??? he did say that when he returned from the caribbean a few years back he was pulled aside for secondary customs interrogation so maybe that's just the way it'll be from now on???

any help would be greatly appreciated, thanks so much. amy

I would suggest that he search on the Customs Agency site for the US and contact them with this question. He may have no issues at all.. except the secondary check.. but you can never tell
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