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Old June 4th, 2013, 10:08 PM
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Thumbs down AMA claiming "no cancelled cruises" on Facebook

Just read a post from AMA literally claiming they have not had to cancel any cruises..... Implying all is normal!!!! Unbelievable... I wanted to sail with these people.
Will post a copy as soon as I figure out how :0
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Old June 4th, 2013, 10:43 PM
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Just read a post from AMA literally claiming they have not had to cancel any cruises..... Implying all is normal!!!! Unbelievable... I wanted to sail with these people.
Will post a copy as soon as I figure out how :0
How odd. I was unable to find such a post. However, consider this CC post from a cruiser currently on the river with AMA:

"Update: During our cruise briefing this morning, the cruise manager announced that AMA is providing a 100% future cruise credit, good through December 2016. Very, very generous, under the circumstances. That's a company focused on customer satisfaction - that's why we chose AMA for our first river cruise, and then again and then again."

I would have no qualms about cruising with AMA again. They, as well as other river cruise lines, are coping as best they can in a difficult situation.

Is this what you mean? Sounds like they are realistic and monitoring the situation by the hour. If this message puts you off AMA, oh well. From AMAWaterways FB page:

"Dear AmaWaterways Guests & Travel Partners,

Our expert teams in Europe and Los Angeles are closely monitoring the current conditions across affected areas in Europe on a continuous basis. As always, our number one priority is to deliver an enjoyable cruise in a safe environment. The good news is that we have not had to cancel any cruises and look forward to welcoming you aboard! We appreciate that you have questions and would like to provide information about your upcoming cruise:

DOURO RIVER

AmaVida
Enticing Douro (P130528DO, embarkation date May 28) is unaffected, cruising normally.

Port Wine & Flamenco (P130604PE, embarkation date June 4) is unaffected, cruising normally.

SEINE RIVER

AmaDagio
Provence & Spain (A130531FA, embarkation date May 31) is unaffected, cruising normally.

Provence & Spain (A130607FAR, embarking June 7) is unaffected, cruising normally.

AmaLegro
Paris & Normandy (B130531PP, embarkation date May 31) is unaffected, cruising normally.

Paris & Normandy (B130607PP, embarking June 7) is unaffected, cruising normally.

RHINE RIVER

AmaDolce
Vineyards of the Rhine & Mosel (F130530ARR, embarking May 30) is cruising towards Amsterdam.

Magnificent Europe (F130606AE, embarking June 6) will proceed as scheduled, embarking in Amsterdam.

AmaCello
The Enchanting Rhine (C130607AI, embarking June 7) may begin with one night hotel stay in Amsterdam, with a sightseeing tour of the city on June 8th before transferring to the ship. We will contact travelers either directly or through their travel agents on Wed., June 5.

DANUBE

AmaCerto
Black Sea Voyage (I130603AJR, embarkation date June 3) is unaffected, cruising normally.

Melodies of the Danube (130610AGR, embarking June 10) will embark on schedule in Budapest.

AmaPrima
Blue Danube Discovery (J130605AC, embarking June 5) will begin with a one night stay in Bratislava at the Austria Trend Hotel. Guests will spend the morning of June 6 sightseeing in Bratislava, followed by lunch and a transfer to the ship.

The Legendary Danube (J130612AB, embarking June 12): Guests will check-in as planned in Prague on June 9, and embark the ship in or near Nuremberg depending on water levels.

AmaLyra
Blue Danube Discovery (E130611AC, embarking June 11): Guests will check-in as scheduled on June 9 at the Sofitel Hotel in Budapest. For guests without a pre-cruise extension in Budapest, please check back on Friday June 7 for further updates.

For any questions about the above departures, please call AmaWaterways at 800-626-0126.

Kind Regards,

AmaWaterways"


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Old June 4th, 2013, 10:46 PM
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I hope this works as I'm not good at this stuff!


https://www.facebook.com/AmaWaterway...785215910561:0
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Old June 5th, 2013, 12:06 AM
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Wow if these posts are not polar opposites I don't know what is.... Can this possibly be the same company - read both .... Pretty unbelievable !!!

I am really confused!
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Old June 5th, 2013, 12:35 AM
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information is not always reality/fact. no doubt we will read accounts from travellers actually living this event. nothing like word of mouth from real travellers. of course it will most likely be after the event.

many will make the best of it but most would agree there are better times to be on the rivers.

hope recovery is swift and no further loss of life.
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nana541:
the water level situation changes hourly and with it the cruise line's response to deal with the situation.
The best source of what AMA is doing can be found on their frequently
updated web site.
http://www.amawaterways.com/
("CURRENT EUROPEAN CRUISES UPDATE")
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Old June 5th, 2013, 02:28 PM
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nana541:
the water level situation changes hourly and with it the cruise line's response to deal with the situation.
The best source of what AMA is doing can be found on their frequently
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http://www.amawaterways.com/
("CURRENT EUROPEAN CRUISES UPDATE")
Sorry it's just the posting on their Facebook wall yesterday was so shocking to me that it really pissed me off..... Not based in reality at all. Maybe the Head Office folks don't share real world info with the Social Media dept.

Really hit me wrong but maybe it's just me!
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What are you confused about? Maybe I'm confused but the two posts look exactly the same. What two posts are you referring to?

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Wow if these posts are not polar opposites I don't know what is.... Can this possibly be the same company - read both .... Pretty unbelievable !!!

I am really confused!
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Old June 5th, 2013, 03:56 PM
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What are you confused about? Maybe I'm confused but the two posts look exactly the same. What two posts are you referring to?
Your right.... What upset me and I was totally fixed on was the statement in the first paragraph "we have not had to cancel any cruises" and this said (it seemed to me) as the river (Danube - Main) had been closed to river traffic...and flooding at historic levels.

It was my interpretation of their "cheery" release and it just hit me wrong. That's all just me - needless to say my original posting was prior to AMA posting the release here or prior to my seeing it.

Feel really bad for the people, villages and communities affected by this historic flood and also the the many many passengers whose "trips of a lifetime" have been impacted.
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One thing you probably didn't notice is that several AMA-based cruises were cancelled, it's just that they were the ones chartered out to APT. That meant that AMA's own brand cruises were all before or after the period in which the most cancellations occurred on the other lines.

Each cruise line is trying to cope with these unprecedented conditions in the way they think is best for their passengers. AMA seems to be at the extreme of let's keep going and do the best we can. Some other lines seem to be cancelling early to give people notice.

As you can see on the Celebrity forum about their Xpedition cancellations in the Galapagos, no matter what they do someone will be upset. Some would prefer that the trip go on with whatever adaptations have to be made (hotel rather than river boat, buses to the scheduled cities). Others would prefer that the entire cruise be cancelled and they get a refund plus future credit. And for still others it doesn't seem that anything the cruise line could do would make them happy.
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One thing you probably didn't notice is that several AMA-based cruises were cancelled, it's just that they were the ones chartered out to APT. That meant that AMA's own brand cruises were all before or after the period in which the most cancellations occurred on the other lines.

Each cruise line is trying to cope with these unprecedented conditions in the way they think is best for their passengers. AMA seems to be at the extreme of let's keep going and do the best we can. Some other lines seem to be cancelling early to give people notice.

As you can see on the Celebrity forum about their Xpedition cancellations in the Galapagos, no matter what they do someone will be upset. Some would prefer that the trip go on with whatever adaptations have to be made (hotel rather than river boat, buses to the scheduled cities). Others would prefer that the entire cruise be cancelled and they get a refund plus future credit. And for still others it doesn't seem that anything the cruise line could do would make them happy.

Kind of a classic "no win" situation...guess I need to go back to perfecting my Lemonade making skills
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Having dealt with AMA's Customer Service before (and after) my Russian cruise, they either lied or were uninformed on simple facts. Not a company that I would recommend working with.
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Having dealt with AMA's Customer Service before (and after) my Russian cruise, they either lied or were uninformed on simple facts. Not a company that I would recommend working with.
Care to share your issues from your Russian cruise as a basis for making this statement? Some back-up would be helpful; saying they may have lied is pretty strong.
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I went on AMA's Katarina to Russia in September 2011 and Coral went before me (don't remember the date). If you hit on my sign-in name and Coral's, you will see our posts re AMA's customer service department. All I can tell you is that I will NEVER give AMA another dime of my money. When I called their office to ask some questions, I thought I was calling Mars instead of a company seven miles from my home.

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I went on AMA's Katarina to Russia in September 2011 and Coral went before me (don't remember the date). If you hit on my sign-in name and Coral's, you will see our posts re AMA's customer service department. All I can tell you is that I will NEVER give AMA another dime of my money. When I called their office to ask some questions, I thought I was calling Mars instead of a company seven miles from my home.

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Yes, I would like to hear details about your problems with AMA, because we're taking our first river cruise on the Danube with them next May.
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Not to diminish the "Customer Service" issues but they are speaking of problems in Sept 2011....almost two yrs ago.
Sorry for butting in...
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If you want info about Russia cruises, please start a new thread--it is clouding the present flooding issue. We also had a bad experience in Russia, but with Viking. Bad times can be had on any line, Also try the rearch function. Pat
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If you want info about Russia cruises, please start a new thread--it is clouding the present flooding issue. We also had a bad experience in Russia, but with Viking. Bad times can be had on any line, Also try the rearch function. Pat
My point was that I am not surprised at 2 completely different statements from their company concerning the current situation. I would be very hesitant to blindly trust the person answering the phone there.
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I agree that anyone interested in Coral and my posts hit the search mode!

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